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Old 05-25-2018, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ducky69247
The load should be high taking off in first gear, right? I don't see 1K PSI taking off from a stop. I mean without flooring it
I can get over 1K while moving though. In 3rd gear, 30 miles an hour, stepping on the accelerator and having the RPMs shoot up and the car not accelerate like it's been doing, fuel pressure jumped above 1k and went back down when the rpms went back down.
If the clutch is slipping bad, the load will be low even in first. The 3rd gear stepping on it and the RPMS shooting up points to a slipping clutch. The motor can't build boost and torque which in turn will require fuel so more fuel PSI with no/low load. In the video you posted, when you change gears the tach should drop a couple thousand RPM, yours dropped 500-800RPM, if I'm seeing the gauge right.

The RPM should not shoot up if the clutch is holding, either you go go go or it should bog, clutch slipping RPM climb, you slowly accelerate or when it finally goes don't go anywhere.
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Old 05-25-2018, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by celblazer
If the clutch is slipping bad, the load will be low even in first. The 3rd gear stepping on it and the RPMS shooting up points to a slipping clutch. The motor can't build boost and torque which in turn will require fuel so more fuel PSI with no/low load. In the video you posted, when you change gears the tach should drop a couple thousand RPM, yours dropped 500-800RPM, if I'm seeing the gauge right.

The RPM should not shoot up if the clutch is holding, either you go go go or it should bog, clutch slipping RPM climb, you slowly accelerate or when it finally goes don't go anywhere.
Sounding more and more like clutch and less and less like turbo. That's why I'm here! To narrow down a diagnosis.
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Old 05-25-2018, 03:14 PM
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You should be able to detect a slipping clutch pretty darn easily by the sound/rpm of the engine when shifting gears.

My first time ever was on a 20 year old abused farm truck in a field, I knew right away the clutch was slipping! It didn't move until the pedal was all of the way out and the gas was all the way down.

If you are driving a standard transmission for the first time in your life, I might buy that you don't know the difference.

A slipping clutch does not cause misfires or even get close to the sort of behavior described earlier.

Your description sounds more like a bad low pressure fuel pump to me.
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:39 PM
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And that would cause the rpms to climb when I step on the pedal, but the car not go any faster? I would think it would make the engine bog down, not pick up.
And all the manual cars I've driven didn't have a slipping clutch, so I'm not sure I would know the difference. Even though this one goes into gear easily and there doesn't seem to be a problem with the pedal, I don't know how it works between the flywheel and the gear box. Right now the car almost doesn't want to go at all when I step on the gas.
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:24 PM
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From post #1 " Stepping on the gas bogs down the engine "
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Old 05-25-2018, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by donbrew
From post #1 " Stepping on the gas bogs down the engine "
Or from my limited experience, it seemed to. To clarify, stepping on the gas raises the rpm, but not the speed of the car. Bogging down was a description of the sound of the engine working harder than the speed the car is moving.

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Old 05-25-2018, 07:41 PM
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Have a friend look at it or even drive it. Most people can tell if a clutch is slipping. At the least, if it's slipping you should be able to smell that putrid "fried clutch smell" (similar to burning brakes you smell sometimes on big rigs)

Fwiw. I still say you have other issues. Low boost etc. points to other problems that are not the clutch slipping(if it is).
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It doesn't want to go more than like 5 mph now. I couldn't get enough speed to shift into second gear. But I can still get the rpms up by stepping on the gas. I could definitely smell it when I tested it for the video, but not normally.
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Originally Posted by ducky69247
it seemed to. To clarify, stepping on the gas raises the rpm, but not the speed of the car. .
The definition of clutch slipping.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:57 AM
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Yes, but that is at least the third different description. I'm getting suspicious.
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