No Lift Shift
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Joined: 03-22-2008
Posts: 228
From: Binghamton, NY
"No Lift Shift"
To me it's obvious. You don't need to lift the gas to shift, ever.
So... to answer, you can be in normal mode to do it. I've done it. it's neat, it's a gimmick but it does work. I don't use it often but I have tried it.
I haven't tried the other modes yet. one will assume it works with them.
To me it's obvious. You don't need to lift the gas to shift, ever.
So... to answer, you can be in normal mode to do it. I've done it. it's neat, it's a gimmick but it does work. I don't use it often but I have tried it.
I haven't tried the other modes yet. one will assume it works with them.
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Joined: 07-23-2008
Posts: 321
From: ny
I couldn't find any real info in my owners manual-which did not come with the car and took me a while to get. Some people don't read the owners manual before they tell people to read the owners manual-I have noticed.
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Joined: 08-06-2008
Posts: 1,761
From: Grand Haven, MI
LAUNCH CONTROL :
HERE IS HOW IT WORKS.
STOP,
NAIL IT,
KEEP IT NAILED THREW NORMAL SHIFTS AT OR NEAR REDLINE,
NOT LETTING OFF GAS.
IN COMP MODE ONLY.
SOUNDS EASY , TAKES A COUPLE TRYS AT FIRST, WHEN YOU GET IT .
IT'S NICE !!!!!!!
MINE REDLINES NORMALLY IN COMP MODE , AND FLYS.
LAUNCH CONTROL ACTIVATED,............
GO WITH THROTLE UP.
HERE IS HOW IT WORKS.
STOP,
NAIL IT,
KEEP IT NAILED THREW NORMAL SHIFTS AT OR NEAR REDLINE,
NOT LETTING OFF GAS.
IN COMP MODE ONLY.
SOUNDS EASY , TAKES A COUPLE TRYS AT FIRST, WHEN YOU GET IT .
IT'S NICE !!!!!!!
MINE REDLINES NORMALLY IN COMP MODE , AND FLYS.
LAUNCH CONTROL ACTIVATED,............
GO WITH THROTLE UP.
I know the owners manual lacks "instructions", but it sure would have been nice to have given a description of how it works. That's for both no-lift shift and comp mode. I'm sure it was a liability issue, but they could have included a disclaimer like "for off-road/track use only"
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Joined: 08-28-2008
Posts: 542
From: Houston, Texas
I have yet to meet a Chevy salesman that knows how to use either of the two. Launch control is useless for the most part to any good driver with a stick. It's cool for someone who can't drive well, but if you've got the good driver mod, it's useless because you can launch better on your own.
The short version is this. GM picked the rpm setpoint (4500, I think) as a good compromise for launches on all surfaces, but it's just that- a compromise. Launch control does not sense or control wheelspin directly; it just keeps you from going above the RPM setpoint. In that way, it does minimize wheelspin by not allowing you to bounce off the redline, but the shortcomings are obvious over different surfaces. I've found that using launch control yields way too much wheelspin on the street, and that I can get off the line better on my own by feathering the gas/clutch.
Of course, it's usually in competitive mode because reading "LAUNCH CONTROL" makes me feel cool like I'm in a Lamborghini... minus several cylinders and a supermodel in the passenger seat. LOL
As to the NLS thing, people do that in other cars anyway. It's called powershifting. But it is nice not to hit the rev limiter. :)
I wouldn't say that. NLS gimmick or not, it's still hard as hell on your clutch, so unless you're practicing or actually racing, I would not use NLS.
Also, in your post you say you can be in normal mode, but are you sure you weren't just power shifting and bouncing off the redline/fuel cutoff?
In addition, you said you can use it in normal but you haven't tried the other modes? Does that mean you haven't done it in comp mode? How do you know the difference if you haven't done it?
The short version is this. GM picked the rpm setpoint (4500, I think) as a good compromise for launches on all surfaces, but it's just that- a compromise. Launch control does not sense or control wheelspin directly; it just keeps you from going above the RPM setpoint. In that way, it does minimize wheelspin by not allowing you to bounce off the redline, but the shortcomings are obvious over different surfaces. I've found that using launch control yields way too much wheelspin on the street, and that I can get off the line better on my own by feathering the gas/clutch.
Of course, it's usually in competitive mode because reading "LAUNCH CONTROL" makes me feel cool like I'm in a Lamborghini... minus several cylinders and a supermodel in the passenger seat. LOL
As to the NLS thing, people do that in other cars anyway. It's called powershifting. But it is nice not to hit the rev limiter. :)
"No Lift Shift"
To me it's obvious. You don't need to lift the gas to shift, ever.
So... to answer, you can be in normal mode to do it. I've done it. it's neat, it's a gimmick but it does work. I don't use it often but I have tried it.
I haven't tried the other modes yet. one will assume it works with them.
To me it's obvious. You don't need to lift the gas to shift, ever.
So... to answer, you can be in normal mode to do it. I've done it. it's neat, it's a gimmick but it does work. I don't use it often but I have tried it.
I haven't tried the other modes yet. one will assume it works with them.
Also, in your post you say you can be in normal mode, but are you sure you weren't just power shifting and bouncing off the redline/fuel cutoff?
In addition, you said you can use it in normal but you haven't tried the other modes? Does that mean you haven't done it in comp mode? How do you know the difference if you haven't done it?
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Joined: 08-06-2008
Posts: 1,761
From: Grand Haven, MI
AaronSS, that is the best description of launch control I have heard. That is sort of what I thought, although I wasn't aware of the 4500 RPM thing.
SScasey, although some may think your question was silly, I have wondered about several of these things, so thanks for asking.
Isn't that why this forum exists?
I have not had any luck getting descriptions of these functions from the 2 dealers I have asked, but they didn't even know they existed....
SScasey, although some may think your question was silly, I have wondered about several of these things, so thanks for asking.
Isn't that why this forum exists?
I have not had any luck getting descriptions of these functions from the 2 dealers I have asked, but they didn't even know they existed....
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Joined: 08-28-2008
Posts: 542
From: Houston, Texas
So I did some experimenting last night in my SS to double check my answers to your questions and to get more info.
When did your car fall on its face? Launch control or NLS?
When I was experimenting last night, I found out that you can indeed use NLS in all TCS/SCS modes, as someone posted previously. HOWEVER, if your car was falling on its face during a NLS, it might have been the traction control kicking in. There is absolutely NO reason to do NLS with the TCS engaged because when you lose traction after the shift, TCS cuts power, therefore the car falls on its face.
I searched through my owners manual for Launch control and Competitive mode high and low, and found NOTHGIN about it. Is it actually in the owners manual? I was looking alot because the first three or four times I tried it, the car fell on its face. I actually couldnt tell you the last time I have done NLS, but then again, can't really do it around subs of detroit.
When I was experimenting last night, I found out that you can indeed use NLS in all TCS/SCS modes, as someone posted previously. HOWEVER, if your car was falling on its face during a NLS, it might have been the traction control kicking in. There is absolutely NO reason to do NLS with the TCS engaged because when you lose traction after the shift, TCS cuts power, therefore the car falls on its face.
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