Etching of paint on rocker panel and rear door rock guard
Why is it that every forum I visit looking for answers and hoping i find something to help my cause for a proper repair has Cap'n Crunch (aka Howdy) flaming , insulting and generally trying to embarrass people into just shutting up instead of doing something more positive... does howdy have boards? if he does..then he should go read a forum that applies to him. The people getting this problem have generally already been misinformed by Chevrolet concerning this problem of paint chipping. It is a design flaw and Chev is just trying to hide it to save the expenses it would cost to make it right for all the people that bought one off the lot that was not equipped with boards and was never advised by the dealership that there was a problem.
It annoys me that howdy has to stoop to name calling instead of using logic because his logic is flawed. Reminds me of kids on a playground.
Bottom line...EVERYONE that bought an HHR without running boards is subject to a design flaw that may cause excessive damage and depreciate the value and appearance of their vehicle and were NOT informed about the problem until it happened to them. Then , the dealer and Chevrolet want to make more profits at the buyer's expense. If I don't get my '07 fixed properly by the dealer/chevy cartel, you can bet I will contact the BBB.
It annoys me that howdy has to stoop to name calling instead of using logic because his logic is flawed. Reminds me of kids on a playground.
Bottom line...EVERYONE that bought an HHR without running boards is subject to a design flaw that may cause excessive damage and depreciate the value and appearance of their vehicle and were NOT informed about the problem until it happened to them. Then , the dealer and Chevrolet want to make more profits at the buyer's expense. If I don't get my '07 fixed properly by the dealer/chevy cartel, you can bet I will contact the BBB.
Who did I call names?
Maybe it's time to call the BBB.
Running boards aren't a magic solution and everything just goes away with them. They help minimize the chipping at best but paint chips will still appear just like any other vehicle.
You shouldn't let my opinion bother you so much. It's just that....my opinion. I personally don't see why everyone is demanding something everyone else pays for when Chevy is already offering to repair what some people find to be a problem and also where everyone got the notion that running boards are the end all solution when it comes to paint chips.
Talk about flawed logic. Can I get in this line?
I think GM should send us all a rebate check that bought the running boards with the car. Oh and since I had to take my time to make sure the fuses were all seated correct and we get that to the total.Oh and the flaw in where the window switches are lets add that to my total
Before anyone points it out that at the begining of the thread I said I had no chips look at the date on the post.
It was well over a year ago.
I had only had my HHR for like half a year or so at that point. Now almost two years after purchase and a couple of winters later there are chips.
It was well over a year ago.
I still see this is an ugly subject! Unfortunately I have not had time to take my car to the dealer about the chipped paint. i guess what some people are not realizing is the extent of damage we are seeing here. I can accept that we will get rock chips in the paint. That is natural but what I am seeing here is damage unlike anything I have seen on a normal vehicle! This damaged area literally looks like the inside of your wheel well. I love my HHR and unfortunately with this damage it is impossible to truly show it off....the vehicle always looks neglected and abused. And this is in less then one year of driving.
As far as GM's response to this problem...well.....they are doing the minimal to appease the people who point it out. The vast majority of people will never take the time to see them about it and just accept it. There was sarcastic mention of a recall for this and well...that was just sarcasm. Recalls are for safety issues not aestetic problems.
As far as GM's response to this problem...well.....they are doing the minimal to appease the people who point it out. The vast majority of people will never take the time to see them about it and just accept it. There was sarcastic mention of a recall for this and well...that was just sarcasm. Recalls are for safety issues not aestetic problems.
Post a pic...
I still see this is an ugly subject! Unfortunately I have not had time to take my car to the dealer about the chipped paint. i guess what some people are not realizing is the extent of damage we are seeing here. I can accept that we will get rock chips in the paint. That is natural but what I am seeing here is damage unlike anything I have seen on a normal vehicle! This damaged area literally looks like the inside of your wheel well. I love my HHR and unfortunately with this damage it is impossible to truly show it off....the vehicle always looks neglected and abused. And this is in less then one year of driving.
As far as GM's response to this problem...well.....they are doing the minimal to appease the people who point it out. The vast majority of people will never take the time to see them about it and just accept it. There was sarcastic mention of a recall for this and well...that was just sarcasm. Recalls are for safety issues not aestetic problems.
As far as GM's response to this problem...well.....they are doing the minimal to appease the people who point it out. The vast majority of people will never take the time to see them about it and just accept it. There was sarcastic mention of a recall for this and well...that was just sarcasm. Recalls are for safety issues not aestetic problems.
Almost half of the people I have asked if I can look at their HHR weren't even aware they had chipping. Amazing!!
I think it's more because 99.9% of people who buy a car know that it's going to have wear and tear and depreciate rapidly over time. The worst people who don't believe this have got to be Honda owners. When I was selling tin, we'd have people bringing in 10 year old Accords with 180,000 miles on them and they'd expect us to give 'em full original MSRP back on the trade! "Well, that car's good for another 180k!" To which I'd say, "So, why are you getting rid of it?"
ptownhhr, why don't you post those documents yourself? If you're going to throw gas on the fire, at least help out the unwashed masses and let them get the free boards they deserve!
Bottom line...EVERYONE that bought an HHR without running boards is subject to a design flaw that may cause excessive damage and depreciate the value and appearance of their vehicle and were NOT informed about the problem until it happened to them. Then , the dealer and Chevrolet want to make more profits at the buyer's expense. If I don't get my '07 fixed properly by the dealer/chevy cartel, you can bet I will contact the BBB.
Exactly, GDZHHR....
That's what I have been saying based on CORRECT AND ACCEPTED engineering terminology. Frankly, I'll say it again, it's design oversite or error.
But, "When one allows emotion to control ones logic, intelligent expression becomes limited to incitement and/or verbalized in, generally, unacceptable social norms". (Psychology 101).
That's what I have been saying based on CORRECT AND ACCEPTED engineering terminology. Frankly, I'll say it again, it's design oversite or error.
But, "When one allows emotion to control ones logic, intelligent expression becomes limited to incitement and/or verbalized in, generally, unacceptable social norms". (Psychology 101).
Exactly, GDZHHR....
That's what I have been saying based on CORRECT AND ACCEPTED engineering terminology. Frankly, I'll say it again, it's design oversite or error.
But, "When one allows emotion to control ones logic, intelligent expression becomes limited to incitement and/or verbalized in, generally, unacceptable social norms". (Psychology 101).
That's what I have been saying based on CORRECT AND ACCEPTED engineering terminology. Frankly, I'll say it again, it's design oversite or error.
But, "When one allows emotion to control ones logic, intelligent expression becomes limited to incitement and/or verbalized in, generally, unacceptable social norms". (Psychology 101).

Looks to me like GM knew about the issue and planned accordingly. The concession in the TSB, in my mind, is more PR than an admission of a design error. It's much easier to try to placate a customer than to win them back.


