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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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Try calling Federal-Mogul directly at 1-800-325-8886, have them connect you to the Moog Chassis Parts tech department, they might not know there's an issue.
Old Jul 30, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BZERKED
Over last weekend I installed some moog ball joints on my 08 SS. I went on the assumption that the ball joint should be compatible with the FE5 suspension. The last couple days of driving it actually felt worse so I jacked it up last night to find that the ball joint shaft that goes into the knuckle was loose to the point I could move it about 1/8th of an inch side to side without much effort. It seemed to fit up ok initially, but last night I had to crank the retention bolt way past spec to get it to close around the ball joint shaft and stop moving. I was so angry I put it back together with the bolt cranked and never drove it because I am worried about wrecking the knuckle. I looked up joints online and Moog has the same PN for the FE3 and FE5 suspensions so I am starting to wonder if I just cut off the correct ball joints to install the wrong ones? I can’t imagine GM would use a different ball joint with only 0.020 - 0.030” more meat on it… would they?

Has anyone put on Moog #K80567 ball joints on an SS? (I did send a note too moog last night to get some sort of feedback)
I am dealing with this exact problem right now! Wish I would have read this thread. Moog doesnt have a clue it doesnt fit.

Where did you end up getting the arms from? I have to find a place to order from asap. The stealership wants $330 each here in canada. F'n ridiculous.
Old Aug 20, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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hmmm....is this why i cant find a moog ball joint in stock ANYWHERE? that includes autozone and advance auto, both in store and online.

does anyone know somewhere that has these in stock?
Old Sep 5, 2012 | 12:10 PM
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I bought mine at Crate Engine depot for $120 each / saved about $80 each!
Here are a couple photos I took

(Head to Head)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85393510@N02/7830774312/http://www.flickr.com/photos/85393510@N02/7830774312/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/85393510@N02/, on Flickr

(How much smaller the Moog is)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85393510@N02/7830798792/http://www.flickr.com/photos/85393510@N02/7830798792/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/85393510@N02/, on Flickr
Old Aug 7, 2016 | 11:00 PM
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HHR SS Control Arms

This has been a nightmare , i have my car on stands because the Moog parts do not fit and the new AC Delco arms don't fit and i used my VIN on the GM site to get the correct part numbers. This is BS. On top of that my original arms that i threw out a month ago were aluminum as were the Moog but the GM are steel. I dont get it but this is a very dangerous situation. I almost ended up in a ditch when the car went squirrely after a right turn with acceleration with the Moog parts. And of course when i finally find a fix i may need new knuckles as well from damage. I found out long ago the local Auto Stores do not have SS parts. They are all incorrect. Tomorrow i have to call GM to try to resolve this. I wish i did not throw my original arms because i want to measure the Stud. All the ones i have the stud is 20mm. Too small.
Old Aug 8, 2016 | 08:49 AM
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Unfortunately they ALL use the same bad parts books, including GM. I know MOOG is wrong, I don't know the original source though.

Somewhere I think I remember somebody posted the size of the stud.
Old Aug 8, 2016 | 10:49 AM
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"but the GM are steel" - the GM ones should be aluminum - I think you have the wrong lower control arms. If they are the stamped steel ones, they are definitely wrong.
Old Aug 8, 2016 | 01:03 PM
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I was under the impression the HHR SS are aluminum, the Cobalts are Steel but were correct for the FE5 ball joint size.... Am I mistaken about that?
Old Aug 8, 2016 | 01:38 PM
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From page 4 of the Common part numbers thread

https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/comm...-part-i-48833/




Lower Control Arm - SS models ONLY (FE5 suspension) IMPORTANT: they are only available thru GM - No after-market suppliers make a compatible part at this time, even though they may say the parts they have are for all HHR's
- GM - P/N: 25930724 - Right
- GM - P/N: 25930725 - Left
(note: Do NOT substitute a FE1 or FE3 LCA - the ball joint stub on them is not compatible with the spindle on a FE5/SS)

There are the two part numbers, they are GM part numbers, if you bought them over the Internet , caveat emptor !
Old Aug 8, 2016 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DrLoch
I was under the impression the HHR SS are aluminum, the Cobalts are Steel but were correct for the FE5 ball joint size.... Am I mistaken about that?
From various bits of info here, I understand that the Cobalts (steel ones) are a perfect fit for the FE1/3 cars only (meaning also that it fits the FE1/3 ball joint stub). They fit, but are of course not recommended due to not being a direct replacement for the aluminium ones - weight differences between vehicles (hhr vrs cobalt) would be a concern).

but there may be different Cobalt arms - for their different suspensions???



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