FE5 Balljoints
06-28-2012, 10:22 PM
#11
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Try calling Federal-Mogul directly at 1-800-325-8886, have them connect you to the Moog Chassis Parts tech department, they might not know there's an issue.
07-30-2012, 10:06 AM
#12
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Over last weekend I installed some moog ball joints on my 08 SS. I went on the assumption that the ball joint should be compatible with the FE5 suspension. The last couple days of driving it actually felt worse so I jacked it up last night to find that the ball joint shaft that goes into the knuckle was loose to the point I could move it about 1/8th of an inch side to side without much effort. It seemed to fit up ok initially, but last night I had to crank the retention bolt way past spec to get it to close around the ball joint shaft and stop moving. I was so angry I put it back together with the bolt cranked and never drove it because I am worried about wrecking the knuckle. I looked up joints online and Moog has the same PN for the FE3 and FE5 suspensions so I am starting to wonder if I just cut off the correct ball joints to install the wrong ones? I can’t imagine GM would use a different ball joint with only 0.020 - 0.030” more meat on it… would they?
Has anyone put on Moog #K80567 ball joints on an SS? (I did send a note too moog last night to get some sort of feedback)
Has anyone put on Moog #K80567 ball joints on an SS? (I did send a note too moog last night to get some sort of feedback)
Where did you end up getting the arms from? I have to find a place to order from asap. The stealership wants $330 each here in canada. F'n ridiculous.
08-20-2012, 06:53 PM
#13
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hmmm....is this why i cant find a moog ball joint in stock ANYWHERE? that includes autozone and advance auto, both in store and online.
does anyone know somewhere that has these in stock?
does anyone know somewhere that has these in stock?
09-05-2012, 12:10 PM
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I bought mine at Crate Engine depot for $120 each / saved about $80 each!
Here are a couple photos I took
(Head to Head)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85393510@N02/7830774312/http://www.flickr.com/photos/85393510@N02/7830774312/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/85393510@N02/, on Flickr
(How much smaller the Moog is)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85393510@N02/7830798792/http://www.flickr.com/photos/85393510@N02/7830798792/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/85393510@N02/, on Flickr
Here are a couple photos I took
(Head to Head)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85393510@N02/7830774312/http://www.flickr.com/photos/85393510@N02/7830774312/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/85393510@N02/, on Flickr
(How much smaller the Moog is)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85393510@N02/7830798792/http://www.flickr.com/photos/85393510@N02/7830798792/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/85393510@N02/, on Flickr
08-07-2016, 11:00 PM
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HHR SS Control Arms
This has been a nightmare , i have my car on stands because the Moog parts do not fit and the new AC Delco arms don't fit and i used my VIN on the GM site to get the correct part numbers. This is BS. On top of that my original arms that i threw out a month ago were aluminum as were the Moog but the GM are steel. I dont get it but this is a very dangerous situation. I almost ended up in a ditch when the car went squirrely after a right turn with acceleration with the Moog parts. And of course when i finally find a fix i may need new knuckles as well from damage. I found out long ago the local Auto Stores do not have SS parts. They are all incorrect. Tomorrow i have to call GM to try to resolve this. I wish i did not throw my original arms because i want to measure the Stud. All the ones i have the stud is 20mm. Too small.
08-08-2016, 08:49 AM
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Unfortunately they ALL use the same bad parts books, including GM. I know MOOG is wrong, I don't know the original source though.
Somewhere I think I remember somebody posted the size of the stud.
Somewhere I think I remember somebody posted the size of the stud.
08-08-2016, 10:49 AM
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"but the GM are steel" - the GM ones should be aluminum - I think you have the wrong lower control arms. If they are the stamped steel ones, they are definitely wrong.
08-08-2016, 01:03 PM
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I was under the impression the HHR SS are aluminum, the Cobalts are Steel but were correct for the FE5 ball joint size.... Am I mistaken about that?
08-08-2016, 01:38 PM
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From page 4 of the Common part numbers thread
https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/comm...-part-i-48833/
Lower Control Arm - SS models ONLY (FE5 suspension) IMPORTANT: they are only available thru GM - No after-market suppliers make a compatible part at this time, even though they may say the parts they have are for all HHR's
- GM - P/N: 25930724 - Right
- GM - P/N: 25930725 - Left
(note: Do NOT substitute a FE1 or FE3 LCA - the ball joint stub on them is not compatible with the spindle on a FE5/SS)
There are the two part numbers, they are GM part numbers, if you bought them over the Internet , caveat emptor !
https://www.chevyhhr.net/forums/comm...-part-i-48833/
Lower Control Arm - SS models ONLY (FE5 suspension) IMPORTANT: they are only available thru GM - No after-market suppliers make a compatible part at this time, even though they may say the parts they have are for all HHR's
- GM - P/N: 25930724 - Right
- GM - P/N: 25930725 - Left
(note: Do NOT substitute a FE1 or FE3 LCA - the ball joint stub on them is not compatible with the spindle on a FE5/SS)
There are the two part numbers, they are GM part numbers, if you bought them over the Internet , caveat emptor !
08-08-2016, 01:55 PM
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but there may be different Cobalt arms - for their different suspensions???