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Lower intercooler piping repair

Old Sep 2, 2014 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 09blkss
I'm back to report that I upgraded my intercooler to a ZZP. I also upgraded the hot side charge pipe to a Taliaferro. The car is running ok but i keep getting a CEL with a P0107 - manifold absolute pressure / barometric pressure circuit low input. Gas mileage has also suffered. Apparently, the computer is confused.

The code returns even after having it cleared.

Is there something I can do about this error to keep it from returning?
Clearing the code is not a "fix". Address the problem, then clear codes. Ther are only a few issues that would trigger that code:
1- harness connection came unplugged from map sensor
2- bad connection or damaged wiring @ map sensor harness plug
3- bad map sensor
4- bad pcm(unlikely)
I wouldn't keep driving it with that code. If a wire is damaged and grounding out, you could cause damage to PCM
Old Sep 2, 2014 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by XtremeSS
Clearing the code is not a "fix". Address the problem, then clear codes. Ther are only a few issues that would trigger that code:
1- harness connection came unplugged from map sensor
2- bad connection or damaged wiring @ map sensor harness plug
3- bad map sensor
4- bad pcm(unlikely)
I wouldn't keep driving it with that code. If a wire is damaged and grounding out, you could cause damage to PCM
Thanks XtremeSS. Very helpful.

I checked the connection (good) and there is no visible damage to wiring.

I was getting a P0101 and P0107 before replacing the intercooler which I presumed was caused by the damaged OEM intercooler. Now it appears that there's possibly a bad map sensor since the P0107 error existed prior.

I'll test the map sensor which, in hindsight, I should have done already. I don't have a vacuum pump but can probably borrow or rent one from a auto parts store.
Old Sep 2, 2014 | 02:54 PM
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In case you didn't know, there are two map sensors. One on the intake manifold and another on the lower charge pipe behind the radiator. I would check the orings for damage and make sure the sensors are seated properly
Old Sep 2, 2014 | 03:17 PM
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X2 what XtremeSS said. Those little O rings should be checked.

Here's the stock upper and lower sensors, which, by the way, are sitting in my office gathering dust.

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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 03:55 PM
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This forum is awesome. I'll check the o-rings of both. By the way, I only checked the seating of the lower map sensor.
Old Sep 2, 2014 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by firemangeorge
X2 what XtremeSS said. Those little O rings should be checked.

Here's the stock upper and lower sensors, which, by the way, are sitting in my office gathering dust.

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If it turns out that one or both of these map sensors are bad, how much for the ones gathering dust?
Old Sep 8, 2014 | 12:43 PM
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Resolved the CEL P0107. Since I hadn't checked the upper MAP sensor, that's where the problem was found. I only checked the lower MAP sensor because I thought I had bumped it while installing the ZZP intercooler.

The upper MAP sensor connector was not snapped tight. I suppose it has been that way since the engine was replaced! Probably initially had enough connection to not throw a code. When I lightly pulled, it came right off. I snapped it back in place. Still had the CEL but it went away after driving around.

Now, I have a loud air flow sound on acceleration. Maybe that's normal with the ZPP intercooler and Taliaferro charge pipe. Apparently, I haven't heard how it really sounds since the upper MAP sensor wasn't properly connected. I'm going to recheck the clamps just in case to make sure there are no leakages.
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